>> well, i think mark got at one of the elements here which is that while it is about israel and iran, as you say, charlie, it's also about iraq. i mean, you have to remember that chuck hagel bailed out on the bush administration and on the republicans on the iraq war far earlier than almost anybody else in the republican party, at least in the senate at that time. and there were a lot of bruised feelings in that time. and people can't say that now because no one wants to step out and defend a war that today looks like a lot worse judgment than it may have the day that they went in. and hagel had voted for the iraq war resolution. but i think there's a lot of residual element there is that have been stilling over into the arguments now about israel and iran. on israel i think that the key element for chuck hagel was that he has -- while he has voted for almost every package of support for israel, he has gone back and questioned whether the israelis are making the right judgments in their own long-term interests on settlements, on how they've dealt with iran, on how -- on many ways of